Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old vs Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory)
Side-by-side comparison — price, ABV, scores, tasting notes, pros & cons.

Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old
Old Rip Van Winkle
★ 5.00
£180

Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory)
Signatory
£147
| Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old | Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory) | |
|---|---|---|
| Distillery | Old Rip Van Winkle | Signatory |
| Region | — | — |
| Country | America | Scotland |
| Type | Rye | Single Malt |
| ABV | 47.8% | 55.2% |
| Age | 13 yr | 20 yr |
| Price | £180 | £146.95 |
| Rating | 5.00/5 | — |
Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old
Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory)
Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old
Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory)
Quick verdict
Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old is rated higher (5.00 vs 0.00).
Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory) is better value at £147 vs £180.
For beginners: Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old is more approachable (55/100 beginner score).
Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old
Pros
- +Better value for money
- +Higher community rating (5.0/5)
- +More widely reviewed by the community
Cons
- −More expensive (£180 vs £146.95)
- −Lacks smoke character compared to the alternative
Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory)
Pros
- +Balanced smoky character without being overwhelming
- +Approachable and beginner-friendly sweetness
- +More affordable (£146.95 vs £180)
- +Longer maturation (20 vs 13 years)
Cons
- −High ABV (55.2%) — may need water
- −Lower community rating (0.0 vs 5.0)
Who should buy Pappy?
Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Rye 13 Year Old suits whisky enthusiasts looking for a well-rounded, complex dram. It rewards those with some experience and an appreciation for Rye character.
Who should buy Secret?
Secret Orkney (HP) 20 Year Old 2005 (cask DRU17 A63 #2) - Cask Strength Collection (Signatory) suits those who enjoy sweet, honeyed, or fruity whiskies. It's accessible for beginners and crowd-pleasing enough for gifts. Fans of approachable Speyside or Irish whiskey will love it.
Tasting notes
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